How to harness the anxious voice in your head with neuroscientist Ethan Kross

Owning It: The Anxiety Podcast

Caroline Foran

Overwhelm, Education, Health & Fitness, Panic Attack, Caroline Foran, Stress, Anxiety

4.4 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Ethan Kross, neuroscientist, psychologist and Professor at the University of Michigan joins me on Owning It to talk about his new book - CHATTER - and how we can better understand and then harness the voice in our head that leads us to all sorts of maladaptive issues, namely anxiety. We talk through some seriously effective tools such as 'temporal distancing' which give a useful structure to concepts we've already explored in Owning It, or things you may already practise yourself but aren't even aware of. Ethan's new book is out now and it's a compelling read. Buy it here.

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0:00.0	Thank you for listening to owning it. If you would like to support the series, the best thing you can do is just tell a friend or better yet share it on social media. If you really, really want to support, you can subscribe to me on Substack where I write a weekly column. Listeners of the pod get a 20% discount forever at carolinephorin.substack.com. Thank you.
0:23.4	Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to another episode of Owning It, the Anxiety Podcast,
0:28.4	with your host Caroline Forin, recording from home still because we are still in bloody lockdown.
0:34.2	And as much as I would love to be meeting my guests face to face, I will have to
0:37.7	put up with Zoom in the meantime. Hopefully you guys are enjoying the series so far. For this one,
0:42.9	I'm so excited about this episode. I was lucky enough to get time with Ethan Cross. You might not
0:49.6	have heard of his name, but he is a world-renowned scientist. He is an amazing storyteller, and his new book
0:57.1	is called chatter, and it's about the voice in our head, and that's what he calls it. So for me,
1:02.8	we could probably like an anxiety a lot to chatter, rumination, and thinking of worrying about the
1:08.9	future and, you know, ruminating on the past.
1:17.1	And he looks at this, this voice in our head where we spend a massive proportion of our waking life in and how to harness it. So what is chatter? Why do we do it? Where does it come from? How can we
1:25.0	harness it? How can we bring down our anxiety? The power of our
1:28.5	thoughts sometimes is something I also ask him about. He just explains it so well, even though he's so
1:33.3	massively qualified in science, he doesn't really get lost in the jargon, which is just amazing
1:38.5	because it means that you can just take what he's saying and apply it straight away. He's an award-winning
1:42.7	psychologist, one of the world's leading experts on controlling the conscious mind, and he's going to help you harness
1:48.4	the conversations that you have with yourself. So do enjoy. Ethan Cross, thank you so
1:58.5	so much for joining me on owning it the Anxiety Podcast. I'm so thrilled
2:02.8	to get this time with you. From what I've read of your book so far, you just, you get it. And not only
2:08.2	do you get it, you're also incredibly qualified and you've so many letters after your name to
2:13.6	validate everything you're saying. So I'm delighted to talk to you. It's great to be here. I've
2:18.5	been looking forward to it. Thank you. Congratulations on the launch of chatter. I was just telling you
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