This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

Hey, hey, everybody. How we doing?

We are coming back today to a subject that I personally find inexhaustibly interesting and that I will never want to stop talking about, or at least I don't think I will.

And that subject is money anxiety. Money is just such a powerful source of suffering and neuroses in my life and in so many of our lives.

And so today I'm going to talk to one of the smartest people I know on this subject about how to use money in ways that can actually boost and bolster your happiness instead of sapping your well-being.

Just to say, and you're going to hear me address this right at the top of the interview,

this is not just a conversation for people who have a lot of money.

This is for everyone.

We all have to interact with money unless we're Buddhist monks or something like that.

And so how can we do this with a level of sanity?

And even, and this is the tantalizing proposition my guest holds out, even interact with money

as a neutral tool that can actually make us happier. Said guest is Morgan Housel. This is

Morgan Housel's second appearance on the show. You may have heard of him. He's the author of

the huge New York Times bestselling book, The Psychology of Money. He's now back with a new book

called The Art of Spending Money. In this conversation, we talk about what our seemingly irrational

spending habits really tell us, how to manage your money ambition with some degree of

sanity, how to use scarcity to your advantage, a useful equation for finding contentment, the key

defense against envy, how to minimize future regret, why young people should check their

bank accounts more often, how to talk to your children about money,

how to separate yourself worth from your financial worth, and much more. I mentioned the word

sanity. If you're interested in sanity, I've got a meditation app for you. It's called 10% with

Dan Harris. You can sign up at Danharris.com. There's a free 14-day trial. If you want to check

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