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The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck Podcast

How to Give Up Everything to Save Yourself (ft. Matt from Yes Theory)

The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck Podcast

Mark Manson

Self-improvement, Education

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In 2021, Matt from Yes Theory, one of YouTube's biggest channels, revealed he was quitting the platform. Despite being an internet celebrity, Matt's story is a common one—about someone who gave away too much of themselves to be liked by others, and now desperately trying to get themselves back. In this episode, Matt and I unpack this familiar dilemma, as well as covering topics like codependence, managing success, dealing with parasocial relationships, determining when vulnerability goes too far, and much more.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Imagine this, you're 20 years old, broke and working as a dishwasher in a restaurant.

0:05.6

And one night, a new friend that you just met comes over and tells you about an idea that he had for

0:10.0

a YouTube channel.

0:11.2

You guys get excited and you decide to do it together. Now imagine

0:14.9

these videos go so well that within six months you and your new friend are getting

0:19.6

millions of views being flown to Los Angeles, meeting up with billionaires and

0:23.8

tycoons, and receiving massive checks to create as much content as you possibly

0:28.2

can. Jump ahead seven years and you've made hundreds of videos, have millions of followers and become famous worldwide.

0:35.0

Your videos have been viewed over one billion times.

0:38.0

That is billion with a beep.

0:40.0

And yet at the peak of your fame and fortune, you decide to hang it up.

0:44.0

This is the story of today's guest, Matt Dahlia, one of the co-founder of Yes Theory, one of the most popular

0:50.5

YouTube channels in the world, a channel that began as four friends traveling the world,

0:54.6

challenging each other to say yes to some of life's most crazy adventures.

0:58.6

Matt and I will talk about how it's possible to have a cod dependent relationship with an audience. We talk about the perils of experiencing

1:06.2

too much success too quickly and the courage that it takes to stand up for yourself even when it means

1:12.1

giving up your life dream.

1:13.7

I'm excited for this episode not just because Matt's a friend of mine and his story is so

1:18.3

crazy and unique, but simply because it's so rare to come across someone who is so successful yet

1:24.9

completely candid about their struggles and fears. What we'll discover is that at

1:29.7

its core Matt's story is actually a very common one. It's about someone who gave away too much of themselves to be liked and admired by others.

1:37.0

And now, as a grown adult in his 30s, he is desperately trying to get that back. So stick around for this one. It's going to be

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