How To Ghostbust The Old Fashioned Way
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 3 March 2026
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Enid Baxter Ryce has built a fascinating career as an artist and university professor, but her unique living situation presents a very different challenge: navigating life on a massive, decommissioned, and potentially haunted military base. She knows how to uncover the historical art left behind in the empty barracks, but the leap to understanding and confronting the supernatural entities that might linger there feels intimidating and out of reach. On this episode: How To!'s Mike Pesca brings on Dr. Irving Finkel, a renowned British Museum curator, Assyriologist, and author of The First Ghosts. Irving offers Enid guidance on bypassing modern skepticism to view hauntings through an ancient Mesopotamian lens, the power of using precise incantations to address spirits—and why dealing with a ghost should be treated as practically as catching a mouse in the kitchen.
Executive Producer Corey Wara
Edited by Geoff Craig
Booking by Lya Yanne
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| 0:00.0 | I accidentally ended up at a tarot card reader's table and she looked behind me and said, |
| 0:05.5 | who's that 16-year-old girl standing behind you? |
| 0:08.9 | There's a long, long ritual which explains it must have been terrifying for the client. |
| 0:13.3 | If they heard something, you'd die of terror. |
| 0:17.1 | Welcome to how to. |
| 0:18.3 | I'm Mike Peska. |
| 0:19.3 | So a confession, I don't believe in ghosts, but a counter-confession, I think I might be wrong. Let us consider the evidence. So strange things happen all the time. The vast majority of people who have ever lived did believe in ghosts. I think probably the majority of people today do believe in ghosts. They're all wrong somehow. |
| 0:39.4 | The ways we have of disproving ghosts definitely seem inadequate to the methods that ghost might |
| 0:45.9 | have to thwart those detection efforts. Also, Sam Darnold is a Super Bowl winning quarterback |
| 0:53.8 | and he was jettisoned from my team, the Jets, |
| 0:57.0 | because he was heard saying on a microphone, I'm seeing ghosts out there. |
| 1:01.0 | Seeing ghosts. |
| 1:03.0 | Seeing ghosts. |
| 1:04.0 | That's not good. |
| 1:06.0 | And you heard what he said? |
| 1:07.0 | So think about this. |
| 1:08.0 | We punish a guy for seeing ghosts and then look what the guy accomplishes. |
| 1:11.8 | I think it's somewhere between fun or exciting or consoling to believe in ghosts. |
| 1:16.5 | And if lifting our spirits is a good thing, I credit the spirit. |
| 1:20.3 | So you stack up all the evidence side by side. |
| 1:23.0 | And we haven't seen this kind of symmetrical stacking since the Philadelphia mass turbulence of 1947. |
| 1:28.0 | Let's take it seriously. The issue of ghosts, how to combat ghosts through the wisdom of the |
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