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The Indicator from Planet Money

How to get Russia to pay Ukraine

The Indicator from Planet Money

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4.79.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2024

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Ukraine desperately needs money. And there's a tempting solution sitting in a Belgian financial institution: nearly $200 billion in frozen Russian assets. In today's episode, we learn about this unique depository where most of the Russian assets are stored and two proposals to get some of this money to Ukraine.

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0:00.0

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This is the indicator from Planet Money, I'm Whelan Wong.

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And I'm Darien Woods.

0:16.0

There are about $300 billion of Russian assets stashed at banks and financial institutions in the US and Europe.

0:24.6

These assets were frozen by Western sanctions after Russia launched its full-scale invasion

0:29.5

of Ukraine in 2022.

0:31.5

It is a tantalizing pot of money, especially now that a bill to send more aid to Ukraine

0:36.8

is languishing in the US Congress. Ukraine needs money for fighting the war and rebuilding its economy. And there's 300 billion

0:45.0

dollars of Russian assets sitting right there. I mean it looks tempting but you know not

0:49.8

so fast seizing or confiscating property that belongs to a sovereign state could be a violation of international law.

0:57.0

So instead, policy makers are floating ideas for workarounds, they're brainstorming ways for the US and its allies to get their

1:04.9

metaphorical mitts on this money without infringing on Russia's property rights.

1:10.0

Today on the show, we learn about the under the radar depository in Belgium

1:17.0

where most of Russia's frozen assets are stored.

1:20.0

And we hear two proposals for how Western countries could get some of this money to Ukraine.

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