How To Get Away With Murder

How To! with Mike Pesca

Peach Fish Projects

Education, How To

4.3 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

One day in 1987, a young girl in a small town in upstate New York disappeared and then turned up dead. For seven years her murder went unsolved, until police finally caught the killer, a local man whom everyone knew. The town would never be the same, according to our listener Jen who grew up there. She's a true crime fanatic and first-time podcaster who wants to investigate how the murderer got away with it for so long. In this episode of How To!, we bring on Jessica Garrison, a BuzzFeed News senior editor of investigations and author of the book The Devil's Harvest. She shares the story of a notorious California contract killer who got away with more than 30 murders over 3 decades before he was brought to justice. In order to understand how that could happen, Jessica says, you need to look at the victims, who are often powerless and overlooked by society because of their class, race or immigration status. The ways in which we tell their stories can have outsized consequences on the entire criminal justice system.

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0:30.8	What is it about true crime that you think is more compelling to you than other kinds of
0:35.3	stories? You know, it's life and death, right?
0:38.1	I mean, it's how do we handle our aggression?
0:39.9	How do we handle our anger?
0:41.4	What are the rules for our society?
0:44.4	And it's only in sort of seeing who breaks them and how and how they get away with them
0:48.6	that you can kind of really see that.
0:52.9	Welcome to how to.
0:55.2	I'm Charles Duhigg.
1:00.4	Each week on this show, we hear from someone who needs help investigating a problem,
1:03.6	and then we look for the best experts to give them some advice.
1:07.9	This week, however, we're diving into a different kind of investigation.
1:11.3	You'd heard of Zodiac Killer. You'd heard of Son of Sam.
1:13.5	The Golden State Killer is one of the most prolific, violent, serial rapists, and eventually a murderer.
1:21.6	True crime is more popular than ever these days.
1:24.8	There's hundreds of TV shows and documentaries and, of course, podcasts.
1:29.3	This is a global kill link prepaid call from...
1:33.3	A non-say-you.
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