How To Fire a Bad Employee
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 6 August 2019
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Gabe wants to fire a bad employee, but still be a good boss. In this episode of How To! we turn to Stanford professor of management science, Bob Sutton (The No Asshole Rule and Good Boss, Bad Boss) for help. First, Sutton says, Gabe has to act like a boss, not a friend. Then he should write a letter, focus on compassion and hide the box of tissues.
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| 0:00.0 | You've decided you want to fire Jim. You need to fire Jim. Do you have a plan about how you're going to do it? |
| 0:06.0 | My plan is to talk to you and have you tell me how I'm going to do it. |
| 0:11.0 | I got, that's kind of a Hail Mary play you're making there, Gabriel. |
| 0:17.0 | Welcome to How-Toe, I'm Charles Doeig. Each week we talk to |
| 0:27.2 | listeners who are trying to figure out how to solve one of life's big problems, |
| 0:31.6 | like how to withstand pain or how to find your soulmate. |
| 0:35.4 | Then we do some research and we track down an expert and get their advice to see if it helps. This week we're talking with the owner of a small business who's having a hard time |
| 0:46.9 | with one of his employees. My name is Gabriel Silverman. I live in Missoula, Montana. |
| 0:52.4 | I started a company called Gecko Designs at a young age when I was in high school. |
| 0:57.0 | You've been basically doing this your entire life. And how many employees do you have? |
| 1:02.0 | So my wife and I are both technically employees and in addition to the two of us we have seven full-time employees. |
| 1:09.0 | To understand why Gabe reached out to us, you first have to know that even though he's the boss, he doesn't really think of himself that way. |
| 1:19.0 | No, I don't like being the boss, and managing employees is not something that I like and it's not something |
| 1:24.3 | that I'm good at. When we bought our building and remodeled it we made a private |
| 1:28.3 | office and I thought well I'll be I'm the boss I'll be in the private office and so |
| 1:32.4 | initially that's where I was and I hated it. |
| 1:35.6 | Our staff was out together doing their work, talking, laughing at YouTube videos, doing the things |
| 1:41.5 | that we'd always done and I was isolated there in the important |
| 1:45.2 | owner's office and pretty quickly I dragged my desk out of there and set up with the team because |
| 1:51.4 | that's where I want to be. |
| 1:53.0 | So tell me what's going on that you're struggling with. |
| 1:56.1 | The problem that we're having now is we have an employee and we can call him Jim and he's a really nice guy and works really hard. |
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