Hi everyone, I'm Susie Weiss, and I've noticed there's just simply not enough podcasts in the world. So I'm launching my own. Let's go. Let's go, baby. Second Thought is a weekly show about pop culture. The stuff everyone's been binging, arguing about, obsessing over. Here's the thing about heated rivalry. I mean, even the most devoted swifties, I think we can agree, not our best work. We'll be hosting thoughtful conversations with culture's most important figures. Talk about genius.

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Coming to headphones near you on can agree not her best work. We'll be hosting thoughtful conversations with culture's most important figures.

Talk about genius.

Talk about generational talent.

Coming to headphones near you on April 17th with a first guest you won't want to miss.

Available wherever you get your podcasts.

What's the one thing Johnny can do that will blow her mind?

The plates that he serves on, they're going to be warm. Nine times out of

ten, ex-boyfriends trying to impress their girlfriends, make their hot food, and then put it on cold

plates. It's a little shivery, and it's just a bad look. That and napkins. Napkins? Yeah. I mean,

I can see, in your eyes, Charles, you're making me out.

It's like Alan Alder here, like Mr. Sensitive.

But I'm telling you that a cloth napkins sends a message that you're not a bad guy.

Welcome to how to.

I'm Charles Duhigg.

Each week, we talk to listeners who are trying to figure out how to

solve one of life's big problems, like how to withstand pain or how to fire a bad employee. Then we

do some research, and we track down an expert, and we learn how to solve the problem. This

week, we're headed to Brooklyn in the apartment of Johnny Levin.

Here's the doorbell.

Hey, hey, how you doing?

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