How to fight a president, please a billionaire, and save a newspaper

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🗓️ 6 October 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Marty Baron ran The Washington Post’s newsroom for nine years. In that time, Marty clashed with then-president Donald Trump. He pacified rebellions from his younger and increasingly more ideological staff. And he partnered with Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos to take on arguably the biggest disrupter of all: technology. He’s written about all of this — and a lot more — in his new book, Collision of Power: Trump, Bezos, and The Washington Post. Today, Marty is joining Playbook co-author and Deep Dive host Ryan Lizza to spill the tea on what actually happened between Bezos and Trump; what the media should be doing to earn your trust; and whether billionaires like Jeff Bezos are secretly pulling the strings behind closed doors.

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0:00.0	Marty Barron ran the Washington Post's newsroom for nine years.
0:04.8	In that time, Marty clashed with then-president Donald Trump.
0:08.3	Also, from the campaign trail, Donald Trump is clashing with the media again.
0:11.6	This time, we've broken press credentials from the Washington Post.
0:14.3	He pacified rebellions from his younger and increasingly more ideological staff.
0:18.9	She's in the Washington Post firing a reporter by the name of Felicia Sanmes after her
0:24.3	week-long Twitter feud with the paper.
0:26.8	And he partnered with Washington Post owner, Jeff Bezos, to take on arguably the biggest
0:31.9	disruptor of all.
0:33.9	Technology.
0:34.9	The financial situation of the Washington Post at that time, this is 2013, was very upside
0:39.5	down.
0:40.5	The problem was a secular one.
0:42.1	The internet was just eroding all of the traditional advantages that local newspapers
0:46.9	had.
0:47.9	He's written about all of this and a lot more in his new book, Collision of Power, Trump,
0:52.4	Bezos, and The Washington Post.
0:54.6	Today, Marty's joining the show to spill the tea on what actually happened between Bezos
0:58.9	and Trump, what the media should be doing to earn your trust, and whether billionaires
1:03.9	like Jeff Bezos are secretly pulling the strings behind closed doors.
1:09.1	I'm Ryan Liza, and this is Playbook Deep Dive.
1:15.2	Marty Baron is the type of person who few recognize, but a lot know about.
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