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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Biden deputy national security adviser lifts the fog of war in Israel

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

Government, Politics, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Jon Finer, President Joe Biden’s principal deputy national security adviser, opens up to Playbook co-author and Deep Dive host Ryan Lizza about how the administration is approaching some of the thorniest problems related to the war in Israel, including: striking the right balance between supporting Israel and expressing concerns about an extreme response; Biden’s warnings to Iran; and whether America should now consider itself at war with Hamas.

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On Saturday, Hamas militants from Gaza invaded southern Israel, massacring some 1,000 people,

0:08.7

including at least 27 Americans, and kidnapping and estimated 150 others, including some from

0:15.0

the United States.

0:17.7

Israelis compared the terrorist attack to 9-11.

0:20.8

The Biden administration was swift to denounce Hamas and support Israel in unequivocal terms.

0:27.6

Upades went out of their way to express disgust with some congressional Democrats whose

0:32.1

first instinct was to call for a ceasefire.

0:35.2

We believe they're wrong.

0:37.0

We believe they're repugnant and we believe they're disgraceful.

0:41.0

Our condemnation belongs squarely with terrorists who have brutally murdered raped kidnapped

0:45.8

hundreds, hundreds of Israelis.

0:49.6

There can be no equivocation about that.

0:51.8

There are not two sides here.

0:53.8

There are not two sides.

0:55.4

As Biden prepared to address the crisis from the White House, he took a hard-line position

0:59.4

about both sidesism with his aides during a speech writing session.

1:03.6

A knowledgeable source told Politico that Biden quote, angrily and forcefully admonished

1:07.4

aides who tried to water down the speech.

1:09.2

In the final version, the president was crystal clear.

1:13.2

Like every nation in the world, Israel has the right to respond and deed has a duty to

1:18.0

respond to these vicious attacks.

1:22.5

The headlines about that speech emphasized Biden's moral clarity and his righteous anger.

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