When I went deeper into this work of empathy, the biggest game changers

when I realized how much of what was holding me back was my relationship with myself.

By having a greater love for myself it made it easier to enforce boundaries.

If we don't have a strong relationship with ourselves, it's sometimes hard to know where we need to enforce certain boundaries.

And I'm not talking about, say,

someone on a completely different political axis than me.

I'm talking about in my home, you know, my parents.

That's actually the biggest testing ground oftentimes.

So we live in a world where it feels like relationships are just kind of perpetually

freeing at the edges.

Loneliness has become an epidemic.

We feel more disconnected than ever before and society as a whole

is increasingly dominated by othering and dehumanization,

and it is causing so much pain.

Question is, what can we do about this?

And where do we even begin?

Well, a great starting point is a powerful tool that we call empathy. It's like

the giant lever that holds within it. The capacity to bridge divides, heal

relationships, relieve isolation and loneliness, foster openness, and open the door to true human

connection. And my guest today, Michael Tenant, has made it his life's work to cultivate and

spread empathy. Michael is the founder and CEO of Curiosity Lab, a

purpose-driven company focused on creating experiences that teach empathy. He's

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