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This Naked Mind Podcast

How To Explore Drinking Without Judgment | Alcohol Freedom Coaching | E813

This Naked Mind Podcast

Annie Grace

Mental Health, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Why do some people thrive in AA while others feel like they're speaking a different language entirely?  Phil's story illustrates the profound difference between shame-based recovery and compassionate inquiry. After cycling through AA for 15 years without lasting success, he found a new path when he learned how to explore drinking without judgment, treating each drinking episode as valuable data rather than personal failure. Coach Onowa guides Phil through his transformation from weekend binge drinking to understanding the deeper connections between childhood trauma, work anxiety, and his relationship with alcohol, showing how self-compassion became his gateway to freedom. In this episode, Phil and Onowa discuss: Shifting your mindset from judgment to compassion in alcohol recoveryThe emotional impact of alcohol use on mental healthHow to explore drinking without judgment to foster self-compassion The importance of compassionate inquiry in understanding addiction Learning to let go of guilt and shame around past drinking behavior The relationship between alcohol, anxiety, and depression Overcoming the stigma of relapse and embracing data points Practical strategies for building resilience in alcohol-free living How to navigate difficult social situations without alcohol and more… Onowa Bjella is a certified TNM Senior Coach with over 20 years of experience in teaching and coaching. She believes that self-compassion is key to creating a balanced relationship with alcohol. As a mom, Onowa is dedicated to healthy eating and living, and she helps other health-conscious moms take control of their relationship with alcohol and become their best selves. Learn more about Coach Onowa: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/onowa-bjella/

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to This Naked Mind podcast, where we question the role of alcohol in our lives without rule, shame, or judgment.

0:12.4

I'm Annie Grace, and I'm so thrilled to have you with us today.

0:15.1

In this special series, I'm inviting you into something truly unique and deeply personal.

0:19.7

You're going to be listening in on

0:21.0

real one-on-one coaching sessions between some of our certified this naked mind coaches and members of our

0:26.2

community who are on their own journey with alcohol. These sessions are raw, unfiltered, and

0:31.3

completely unscripted. But before we dive in, I want to prepare you for what you're about to hear.

0:36.4

These conversations are real,

0:38.2

real people, real struggles, real emotions. They're honest and they're sometimes painful,

0:43.0

and they may even be uncomfortable to listen to. But that's the point. So no matter where you are

0:47.5

on your own personal journey, I encourage you to listen with an open heart and an open mind.

0:52.5

Now let's step into the world of this naked mind

0:54.4

coaching because this is where change begins. Hello, Phil. I'm so grateful to be here with you

1:02.7

today and I'm really looking forward to hearing a little bit more about your story and getting into

1:07.6

some of your questions that you had shared about this alcohol-free journey.

1:12.9

I'd love it if you could introduce yourself for a bit here and tell me about your alcohol-free journey

1:18.2

and what brought you to the path and to your question today.

1:21.3

Hi, it's a privilege to be here.

1:23.8

This is my first time with the one-on-one coaching.

1:26.9

And I've been a little hesitant during the week.

1:30.1

But as the week's gone on, I've actually begun to really look forward to it.

1:34.1

I've listened to so many podcasts and I love them, the books, the alcohol experiment and the naked mind.

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