So, Burdo, I thought we would do a real quick episode about how to spot a narcissist in the real world.

What do you say?

This sounds like it's another episode about me.

It is. This is the Psychology and Seattle podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kirkana. I'm a therapist

professor, and I believe I'm about a 5% on the narcissism scale. Burdo, who are you?

My name is Umberto Castañera, and I sell feline defense equipment.

So, I wanted to do an episode on this. I did a deep dive, a eight or nine hour deep dive on

narcissistic personality disorder. If you want to listen to that, become a patron of the podcast.

And you get to hear that whole eight, nine hour episode in which I go into full detail on history

and presentation and diagnoses and research and terms and how it comes about and blah blah.

But I just thought we'd do a real quick episode on how to just some tips on how to spot it in

the real world because I feel like people have some kind of simplistic ideas about what narcissism

is and why it exists and how it might manifest. But first, a caveat is that I find that a lot of

people refer to narcissists as this uniform character profile, which there's, I've never met two

narcissists or people who are on the narcissistic personality scale who were similar. I see.

They might have similar traits, but really every individual is different and there's just a ton

of variation between those people. It's like saying everyone who is tall has the same personality

or everyone who likes soccer has the same personality. If I understand you right,

it's like narcissism is like one of millions of dials in the person's personality.

Exactly. So you can have an introverted narcissistic person. You can have an extroverted

narcissistic person. You could have a likable narcissistic person. You have a very unlikeable.

You could have a criminal. You could have a murderous narcissistic person. You have a narcissistic

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