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How To! with Mike Pesca

How To Crack Your Kid Like a CIA Operative

How To! with Mike Pesca

Peach Fish Projects

How To, Education

4.32K Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2021

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Every kid sneaks a cookie from the cookie jar, but Jamie's 8 year-old daughter Simone has taken it to the next level. If you look under her pillow or in the back of her closet, you'll find stashes of candy wrappers and other illicit items. When confronted, Simone never cracks under pressure. Jamie is worried that if this behavior isn't stopped soon, Simone will grow up to be a "supervillain." On this episode of How To!, we bring on Christina and Ryan Hillsberg, authors of License to Parent: How My Career As a Spy Helped Me Raise Resourceful, Self-Sufficient Kids. They draw on their years of experience at the CIA to help Jamie figure out how to handle Simone's sly behavior. Is there any way to harness it for good? Christina and Ryan give Jamie a crash course in building trust and influencing people without them realizing it.

If you liked this episode, check out: "How To Convince People to Give You Money."

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0:30.5

You know, she's got so much potential to just do so much good. Right now, she doesn't strike me

0:36.7

as somebody who would do anything to harm people,

0:39.6

but I just want to make sure that that continues to be the case that she gets more and more cunning

0:44.5

and, you know, hones her skills.

0:49.9

Welcome to how to. I'm Amanda Ripley. You know the old saying, don't get caught with your hand in the cookie jar?

0:56.0

Well, today we're talking about a kid who is way too crafty to get caught.

1:01.0

This kid is so good that you'll never even know the cookie jar was compromised.

1:07.0

That is, until you find cookie crumbs in her room, chocolate chips under the pillow, and finally, of course, a totally empty cookie jar.

1:14.6

I'm Jamie in Charlotte, North Carolina, full-time consultant working at home and mother of two lovely children.

1:22.6

Jamie's oldest son, Kai, is nine, and just an innocent bystander.

1:28.1

The prime suspect in this case is her daughter, Simone.

1:32.3

So Simone is eight. The best way to describe her would just be brilliant.

1:39.2

Gifted learner, sponge absorber.

1:43.8

But sometimes Jamie worries that Simone is almost too smart for her own good.

1:48.1

So I have been noticing some things with my daughter,

1:53.9

behaviors that I'm struggling to understand.

1:57.1

I guess sneaky is the best word to describe it.

2:00.1

Unnecessary sneakiness.

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