Pushkin.

Hey, Dr. Lorry Santos here with a special bonus episode, and something a little different.

I was recently invited on a podcast called The Unshakeables to talk not about happiness, but resilience.

The Unshakeables podcast is created by Chase for Business. It focuses on small business owners

who face crisis points and show the heart, humility, and hustle needed to propel their companies

forward. I joined Ben Walter, CEO of Chase for Business, and host of The Unshakeables, to explore

the story of Benjamin Howe,

who runs All-Nation Restoration in Austin, Texas.

Benjamin's story is pretty incredible.

He not only bounced back from some serious business problems, he also started life facing

some truly tough situations.

Benjamin was born into a deeply repressive community, one in which he felt unloved and unappreciated.

Benjamin hated how he was treated, and he rebelled against his family, which landed him in trouble with the law.

And that turned out to be a blessing.

Ben, what I really loved in your story, especially during the hardest times, is you told this tale of how there was one person who really

thought you were smart and you'd never been called smart before. I just want you to reflect on that

a little bit about how that really changed your perception of yourself. Yeah, sure. It came at a

super impactful moment and from somebody with a lot of authority, right? So like when I ended up in the juvenile

system, I was actually in front of a judge. And it was interesting because my dad was a bit of a

tyrant. And he was really the one that consistently had made me feel really insignificant and really

stupid. But when I was in that courtroom, my dad was in submission to that judge. He could do nothing.

He could say nothing. And that was really cool for in submission to that judge. He could do nothing. He could say nothing.

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