How to Build Relationships, Hook Up, and Raise Hell, Together with Dean Spade
How to Survive the End of the World
How to Survive the End of the World
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 6 June 2025
⏱️ 68 minutes
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The sisters are thrilled to welcome Dean Spade to the show! He has been working to build queer and trans liberation based in racial and economic justice for the past two decades. He is a professor at the Seattle University School of Law and author of the new book, Love in a Fucked Up World: How to Build Relationships, Hook Up, and Raise Hell, Together.
Dean and Autumn and adrienne discuss holding anxiety in your body, literally touching and flirting with trees, the most exciting thing on your horizon, giving eachother what we need, self-authorizing, the dangers of isolation, why we become relationship monsters, love as a psychedelic journey, how our childhoods play into our patterns, Getting the Love You Want by Harville Hendrix, everyone needing good, quality attention, the exclusivity spell, normalizing jealousy, locating our personal sore spots and whether we're gonna be able to move together enough to stop these ecocidal maniacs bent on killing us all!
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Autumn Brown, Front Woman of the Soul Pop Band, Autumn, a queer science fiction writer, a theologian, a mother of dragons, |
| 0:23.2 | and a healing justice facilitator for social movements living on Dakota and Inishinaabe land, |
| 0:29.0 | currently known as Minneapolis. |
| 0:31.4 | And I'm Adrienne Marie Brown, a luscious black queer witch writer Auntie writer, auntie, an apocalyptic cosmic optimist, |
| 0:40.4 | and a gardener of healing ideas. I live in the land of the Shikori, Skruru, |
| 0:45.4 | Tescarora, Ino, and Lombie peoples. And may I say, your pronunciation is on point today. |
| 0:53.5 | And this is how to survive the end of the world. |
| 0:57.7 | Our podcast about learning from apocalypse with grace, rigor, and curiosity. |
| 1:04.0 | As a reminder, we have no ads. |
| 1:06.9 | We are fully listener supported. |
| 1:09.3 | So join our Patreon for exclusive content and to support the show existing. |
| 1:15.2 | Also, that's the only place you can access our top culture. |
| 1:19.7 | It is. |
| 1:20.4 | It's the place where you can experience our top culture now. |
| 1:22.3 | It is. |
| 1:22.8 | You have to go over there and listen. |
| 1:23.6 | You get to go over there and pay for it. |
| 1:25.5 | Yes. |
| 1:26.7 | We are excited because today we have a guest who I feel like we're swimming in the same waters with. |
| 1:32.8 | Like I feel like we're in the same big questions of life with. |
| 1:36.0 | And he has written awesome books that help us in this swim. |
| 1:40.3 | So today we have Dean Spade with us. |
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