How to Build a Healthier Relationship with Technology with Dawn Wible
The Allender Center Podcast
The Allender Center
4.7 • 648 Ratings
🗓️ 24 April 2026
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
We've all been there. When quickly a "just checking something" moment turns into 20 minutes lost scrolling. How hard it is to stay present with the people right in front of us. And how confusing it can be to guide our kids through a world we didn't grow up in.
In this episode, Dr. Dan Allender and Rachael Clinton Chen sit down with Dawn Wible, founder of Talk More. Tech Less., to name what many of us are wrestling with. Technology isn't just a tool; it's shaping our attention, our relationships, and even our capacity for connection.
You'll also hear about how to approach some of the harder truths many families are facing today, including online exploitation risks, and why open, shame-free conversations at home matter more than ever.
If you've ever felt the pull of your phone, the frustration of setting boundaries, or the ache of disconnection with your loved ones, you're not alone.
We invite you to listen to the full episode to hear practical insights for you and your family. And be sure to check the show notes for resources from Talk More. Tech Less., including their free guides to help you take small, meaningful steps toward healthier tech use.
Listener Resources from Talk More. Tech Less.:
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Pre-Order the TMTL 30-Day Program: https://www.talkmoretechless.com/shop/talk-more-tech-less-30-day-program
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Download free educational Prevention One-Pagers: https://fairplayforkids.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/ActionKitCombined.pdf
About the Allender Center Podcast:
For over a decade, the Allender Center Podcast has offered honest, thoughtful conversations about the deep work of healing and transformation. Hosted by Dr. Dan Allender and Rachael Clinton Chen, MDiv, this weekly podcast explores the complexities of trauma, abuse recovery, story, relationships, and spiritual formation. Through questions submitted by listeners, stories, interviews, and conversations, we engage the deep places of heartache and hope that are rarely addressed so candidly in our culture today. Join the Allender Center Podcast to uncover meaningful perspectives and support for your path to healing and growth.
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| 0:00.0 | My name is Robbina, and I'm trained in narrative-focused trauma care level 3 certified. |
| 0:11.0 | Sharing my story in a small group was life-changing because others could name what I couldn't yet see or speak. |
| 0:19.0 | In the safety of that space, parts of my story were reflected back to me, |
| 0:23.6 | the truth that I had avoided out of fear and patterns I had normalized just to survive. |
| 0:29.7 | What I could not yet see alone became visible in community. |
| 0:35.7 | Telling the truth of my story allowed me to recognize and interrupt generational, |
| 0:41.9 | relational patterns. I left systems and relationships that constrained my flourishing, changing the |
| 0:51.5 | trajectory of my life, and modeling a more honest |
| 0:55.7 | and healing way of being for my children. |
| 1:20.5 | Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast. |
| 1:22.3 | I'm Dr. Dan Allender. |
| 1:23.9 | And I'm Rachel Clinton-Cenn. |
| 1:28.2 | We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world. |
| 1:30.5 | And restoration for the heart. |
| 1:32.1 | Thank you for joining us. |
| 1:33.9 | Let's get this conversation started. Today on the podcast, we're going to be talking some about our relationship with technology |
| 1:51.2 | and its impact on our relationships. And this is something Dan and I talk about frequently, |
| 1:58.2 | especially when we're reflecting on our own propensity to turn to our |
| 2:02.8 | phones for some dopamine hits, but also watching the various teens in our lives, brains actually |
| 2:08.9 | be shaped differently by their relationship with technology. So we are so honored and thrilled |
| 2:14.9 | today to have Don Weibel with us as our guest. So welcome, Don, |
| 2:19.3 | and then I'll give some more bio info for you, but so glad to have you. Thank you so much. |
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