Cal Newport has wrote such great books about basically how to be more productive and more creative and more.

Well, the titles of the books speak for themselves.

So good, they can't ignore you.

Deep work.

And this latest one is called slow productivity.

Basically by going slower and in sometimes doing nothing you ultimately

succeed in getting more productive and he tells how and why and we always have an

interesting conversation so here is Cal Newport.

This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Altager show. So, Cal, I feel like, correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like you were on this podcast yesterday.

Like when was your last book out?

Oh God, two years ago.

Two years ago, so you must have come on around then?

I guess so, but I write a lot of books, so who knows? it could have been the book before that like the last book came out during the pandemic

So that was weird so it's not like a normal launch but yeah it was either for that book or the book before and that was I think it was that book was digital minimalism? And that was the book?

It was digital minimalism?

No, see I had a book in between that and this.

What was that book?

A world without email.

I feel like we did talk about that.

We might have. I think I feel you've been talk about that. You might have.

I think you've been on three or four times at this point.

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