How To! | Become an Expat
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🗓️ 7 January 2025
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
Before the 2024 election, Maureen and Jayna had hoped to attend a historic inauguration for Kamala Harris in Washington, D.C. But when Donald Trump won the presidency, the lesbian couple scrapped their trip—and booked a fact-finding mission to Portugal instead. On this episode of How To!, they talk with co-host Carvell Wallace about their plans to leave the U.S.—and start a new life somewhere they'll feel safer. And, Jen Barnett of Expatsi offers up advice about Portugal and other LGBTQ+ friendly countries, the implications for taxes and international travel (including return trips to the States), and what expat-curious listeners need to know about raising kids, voting, EU citizenship—and how to take the first step.
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| 0:00.0 | Maureen and Jaina are not currently married. |
| 0:02.9 | Is there an advantage to being married to pull off a transition like this or to not being married? |
| 0:07.7 | Great question. |
| 0:09.9 | Okay, well, let me ask you this first. |
| 0:11.5 | What do you want me to say? |
| 0:13.3 | I don't know. |
| 0:14.0 | What does Jaina want you to say? |
| 0:18.2 | I feel like this topic has come up before here. |
| 0:23.3 | Welcome to how to. |
| 0:24.7 | I'm Carvel Wallace. |
| 0:26.3 | Coming up on the show today, we'll talk to a couple that is accelerating their plans to live abroad as a result of the 2024 election. |
| 0:33.4 | But first, we're kicking off 2025 with some great news. |
| 0:37.6 | How to is being featured in Apple Podcast's New Beginnings Campaign for the entire month of January. |
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| 0:48.6 | And this is what we do on How To. |
| 0:50.5 | Each week, we tackle life's problems, big and small, with the help of expert guests. |
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