Yep, let's see it.

Got it. Yeah.

Open up our souls to feel your glory Lord.

We are a desperate people.

Your cathedrals can

fill this space ledger, take temptations place, we will taste and see you as you.

Hello and welcome into what is episode 27 of Apologetics 105 that was of course 10th Avenue north I am

Rob Johnson and I welcome you in this was a really good interview.

Jay Warner Wallace joined me and this was the second time on the show.

And the first time we talked a lot about his first book, cold case Christianity, talked about the methodology,

we really got into the meat of the book.

This interview is, I would say, significantly different, because in this interview we talk about a lot of different

things we talk about the process of developing kind of a community if you're looking to be

an apologist we talk about the series of books he's written and his methodology.

We talk about his schedule and his speaking engagements and there's a lot of good content here that Jim brings and I appreciate his time to walk through each of these

areas of his life and really kind of pull back the curtain of what what he does and how he doesn't mean the man is crazy busy

He does a lot and I really appreciate his work for the field of apologetics and we talk a little bit about the end

about the different tones that apologists will take so for example some apologists

or what I call shock apologists and they'll they'll say things just to be

Just to be ridiculous just to kind of get a a rise out of people. There's a few names in mind but I'm not going to say them just because I don't

There's no reason to do that, but there's you know you've heard the guys who do that

They say things that are incendiary and hope to get a rise out of people.

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