How to Beat Trump in a World Where Indictments Actually Help Him

Matter of Opinion

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Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

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🗓️ 10 August 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Donald Trump was impeached twice. He has been indicted three times. He lost the 2020 election. And yet he’s the clear Republican front-runner for 2024. Today on “Matter of Opinion,” Michelle Cottle, Ross Douthat and Carlos Lozada explore how Trump has created a winning political strategy and what his potential nomination could mean for Joe Biden, the Republican Party and the future of the country.

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0:00.0	There. Okay, recording. So today we're a minus our lovely comrade Lydia Paul green who's
0:07.2	taking the well-deserved vacation. Does anyone ever take an undeserved vacation?
0:12.2	I'm not sure why Lydia is allowed to make it. I take them all the time.
0:15.0	Yeah, shouldn't we say that maybe deserved vacation? She can't leave me here with you guys.
0:19.2	Who the hell knows deserve vacation. Okay, let me let me let me rephrase where
0:23.6	minus our our thankless comrade Lydia Paul Green, who is taking a perhaps
0:28.3	deserved vacation. From New York Times opinion, I'm Carlos Lozada. I'm Michelle
0:35.0	Coddle. I'm Ross Douthett. And this is Matter of Opinion.
0:46.5	Okay, so no Lydia today, but the three of us will be taking a dip back into the
0:51.5	presidential race. Oh, God. And in particular, let's try to understand why so much of
0:56.8	America and so much of the Republican Party in particular just cannot seem to quit Donald J. Trump.
1:04.3	So he lost in 2020. So I hear, but he certainly didn't go the way of, you know,
1:09.5	other one-term presidents and just kind of fade in the distance. And then last fall,
1:13.4	a lot of his picks didn't do well in the midterms. There was a brief moment when it seemed
1:16.5	like the Trump magic was disappearing, but that didn't really happen. So now it's August 2023,
1:23.7	just days away from the Republican debate, the first Republican debate. I know you're all
1:27.9	looking forward to that. And we have a twice, a twice impeached,
1:33.1	thrice indicted former president with Michelle's favorite possible indictment,
1:39.1	Georgia coming soon. Georgia. It's the hipster indictment. Don't mock me.
1:44.8	Michelle was into Georgia before it was even a state before it was cool.
1:49.6	And yet Trump is still, despite all that, crushing the Republican field for the 2024
1:55.2	nomination. And he's also tied with Biden and the polls on a possible rematch. So where does this
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