Hi, my name is John Kim. I'm a therapist who went through his own

rebirth many years ago and I've been documenting my journey ever since sharing my life

lessons and revelations. I believe in casual over clinical with you instead of at you. I come unrehearsed on purpose

because self-help doesn't have to be so complicated.

All right, so Dr. Nicole lepera, thank you so much for coming here. I thought you lived in

Venice, you live in Arizona now, the first time we've met, I feel a kinship to you because

I consider you an OG and I remember like when was

Instagram invented no seriously like 2010 2012 So I was on Tumblr 2010, going on Instagram, I don't know, 2013.

And I feel like there was a few of us, you definitely won, who were in kind of a 90s Apple Adway weirdo you know I'm saying

like I felt like an out like yeah and I was inappropriate and I didn't like the conventional, I didn't like taking my

shirt in, and I felt very alone.

So when I went to therapy school, it was mostly women, no Koreans, and so you know this guy with the

broken heart who like motorcycles and cross fit on Instagram or on Tumblr

it felt very I just felt like oh is, there's no one like me.

And so one of the things I felt when I met you was, oh,

there's like this whole, there's other people coming out,

and you have more letters after your name. So you're more a quote of a

professional but you were really showing yourself and and you were talking about

things and doing things in a way at that time I thought was just courageous and off-center. You know what I'm saying?

Coloring outside the lines. What are your thoughts on that? I'm very much

appreciating you say that John I think many thoughts I'm

having I'm giggling at the kind of short comment because I spent a lot of time

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