Hello and welcome to The Upgrade, a podcast from the team at Lifehacker.com, where we help you improve your life one week at a time.

I'm Melissa Kirsch, editor-in-chief of Lifehacker. And I'm Andy Orne, an editor with Lifehacker.com, where we help you improve your life one week at a time. I'm Melissa Kirsch,

editor-in-chief of Lifehacker. And I'm Andy Orne, an editor with Lifehacker. And this week we're

talking to Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporter, author, and Lifehacker extraordinaire Charles

Duhigg. Charles is the author of the mega bestselling books, The Power of Habit, about the science of habit formation

and smarter, faster, better, about the science of productivity, which came out in paperback last week.

Thank you for coming. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. We are super excited to have you

here today. And I know you just got off a flight at 1 a.m. this morning. But I'm feeling amazing.

Okay, good. I'm feeling like a winner with the five hours of sleep I got.

Oh, perfect, perfect.

So we'll make sure to make this as rigorous as possible.

You guys might not feel like a winner.

You might think I'm way, yeah.

But I'm feeling good at least.

Okay, cool.

The audience can write to us at Upgrade at Lifehacker.com and let us know if they think that Charles is a winner or a loser today.

I'm going to start with like a question that you're asked constantly, which is how someone who's got a high pressure job like you, a family, and at the time that you were writing smarter,

faster, better, you were doing publicity for your previous book, The Power of Habit,

how you managed to write another best-selling book, this one about productivity, in your very

few off hours. That is a great question, because that was actually one of the things that drove me

wanting to write this book, which was that I sort of had this epiphany experience right after

the power of habit that came out, which was that I had been working on the power of habit for a number

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