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Worklife with Adam Grant

How to be productive without burning out, with Cal Newport

Worklife with Adam Grant

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Management, Worklife Podcast, Worklife With Adam Grant, Work Life Balance, Ted Talks, Podcast About Work Life, Ted Adam Grant, Adam Grant Podcasts, Ted Podcasts, Adam Grant, Organizational Psychologist, Business

4.89.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Cal Newport knows a thing or two about productivity: when he’s not teaching computer science at Georgetown, he’s writing for The New Yorker, hosting a podcast, or authoring New York Times bestsellers like Deep Work and Digital Minimalism. In his new book, Slow Productivity: The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout, Cal proposes that we trade current standards of rapid output for slower, higher-quality, and sustainable ways of working. Adam and Cal dig into the data on productivity, debate the benefits and drawbacks of doing fewer things (and spending less time on email and social media), and discuss individual habits and organizational practices for preventing burnout and promoting worthwhile work.

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0:00.0

Ted Audio Collective.

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Caulctive.

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Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant.

0:10.0

Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast on the science of what makes us tick with the Ted

0:15.1

Audio Collective. I'm an organizational psychologist and I'm taking you inside the minds of

0:19.8

fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

0:24.0

My guest today is Cal Newport.

0:29.0

His day job is as a computer science professor at Georgetown,

0:32.0

but I'm more interested in his side hustle.

0:34.9

He's one of the world's foremost thinkers

0:36.8

on how to make work better.

0:38.6

Cal Moonlights is a New Yorker writer, podcast host,

0:41.9

and best-selling author of books like Deep Work, So Good They Can't

0:45.2

Ignore You, and Digital Minimalism.

0:47.8

He's joining me today to talk about his new book, Slow Productivity, The Lost Art of accomplishment without burnout.

0:55.3

What was happening in our current world of work around this nebulous idea that we informally

1:00.9

referred to as productivity was clearly broken.

1:03.6

People are tired of that idea, they don't know what it means,

1:06.6

whatever they're doing doesn't seem to be working for them.

1:09.8

And so people are in a space right now where they want to start from a blank slate and

1:13.4

rethink what does it mean to do my work well.

1:16.9

We've been discussing and debating ideas for years, mostly by email, even though he

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