How to Be More Alive with Cole Arthur Riley (Best Of)

We Can Do Hard Things

Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.8 • 41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2025

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

In this beautiful conversation–in which Glennon names Cole’s book “This Here Flesh” the Next Right Book–we discuss: 1. What we learned from Cole’s insight that, “If you’re not in your body, someone else is.” 2. A mind-blowing revelation about all of our own faces that we will never stop thinking about. 3. Why the phrase “If you don’t believe you’re beautiful, no one else will” is horseshit. 4. Why dignity is the bedrock to being alive–and how to find it when we haven’t been loved well. 5. The connection between fear and awe–and how to practice wonder as a cure for despair. About Cole: Cole Arthur Riley is a writer and poet. She is the author of the NYT bestseller, This Here Flesh: Spirituality, Liberation, and the Stories that Make Us. Her writing has been featured in The Atlantic, Guernica, and The Washington Post. Cole is also the creator and writer of Black Liturgies, a project that integrates spiritual practice with Black emotion, Black literature, and the Black body. TW: @blackliturgist IG: @colearthurriley @blackliturgies To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:18.7	Welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things. So here's the deal. I am a writer.
1:24.1	And at this point on the planet, everyone who is a writer is expected to have a book club.
1:32.6	It's just like, where's your book club? Why don't you have a book club? It's like, I'm not going to have a book club. Okay, I'm not going to have a book club because club,
1:37.7	I feel like there's going to be meetings. I feel like there's going to be things expected of me.
1:44.2	Plus, I treat books like I used to treat booze. Like I, you know, I read like six books a week. That's right.
1:48.2	So by the time I'm in love with the book, like, I can't wait for everybody else.
1:49.2	No, that's right.
1:50.8	No, that's not going to happen.
1:53.6	So I am not going to have a book club.
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