I think it's really archaic and that sort of old sort of like tribalism, I think, within

healthcare, that it's woo-woo or fringe or quackery to do anything other than just take this

medication. I really feel like that age is gone. There's still people clinging to it.

But ultimately, people want to know what's your

most effective option that causes you the least amount of side effects? And look, for some people,

medications are going to be that and they need to be on it. But there's a lot of tools that

researchers are looking at that really have no side effects and are very effective. And most of them

are free or low cost. So I, yeah,

I think that the whole, what calling things woo-woo and quackery is a way to shut people up because

it's this virtue of signaling. It's I'm an elitist and you're somehow, you know, less than me.

But I don't think that that's cutting it for the average person out there that

really just wants results. And I think the statistics speak for itself, because as a country,

we spend more on health care than the next 10 top spending countries combined, yet we're the

sickest with the shortest lifespan of all industrialized nations. So it's really the height of arrogance to then call

something woo-woo because it's like the failing student, like shaming the valedictorian of us

actually getting people healthy. Hey, everybody, what's up? It's Chase. Today's episode is incredible.

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telling you, this is what I feel like is a huge piece of the future

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an organism. And I do, not just, again, throwing a drug at our problems, but what can we do

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