How To Balance Mind, Body—and iPhone
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 24 June 2025
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
Mary is juggling a busy career and family life and, like many of us, she feels guilty about the time she spends on her phone. On this episode of How To!, Courtney Martin talks with author and teacher Molly Caro May about how she's helping others rethink—and rewire—their dependency on devices with an approach that's focused on the mind-body connection.
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| 0:30.7 | Mary, can you tell us a little bit about your relationship to your phone? |
| 0:36.5 | Oh, gosh. |
| 0:37.5 | It's fraught. |
| 0:39.3 | It's very fraught. |
| 0:45.0 | Welcome to how to. |
| 0:46.7 | I'm Courtney Martin. |
| 0:48.2 | I want to start today's episode by sharing a wild statistic with you. |
| 0:52.9 | The average American unlocks their phone 150 times a day. |
| 0:58.8 | 150 times a day. |
| 1:00.3 | I mean, really think about that for a minute. |
| 1:02.8 | There is nothing else in our lives that is so instrumental to every aspect of our existence, |
| 1:07.8 | professional, social, parasocial, and there's nothing else in our lives |
| 1:12.5 | that is so palpably compulsive. We reach for it without thinking. We tap on our favorite icon |
| 1:18.6 | without intention. It's normalized at this point, obviously, but that doesn't mean it should be. |
| 1:24.9 | And I know what you're thinking. I've heard this conversation before, keep screens out |
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