I think morality is sentimental, you know, it's about how we feel about what's happened rather than some sort of calculus based on logical principles.

You think it's based on how we feel? Like what exactly do you mean by that?

Sure, like, for example, a libertarian will say the state infringing

on my right to bear arms is immoral and therefore I am rationally justified in this but the damn straight yeah no no I and I agree

because I'm in English but the underlying thing under that is a kind of moral prejudice do you

identify as a conservative?

I guess I would call myself a traditionist rather than a conservative.

I feel like I've gone with libertarians since I was like 14.

Well, I mean, libertarians an ideological viewpoint.

You're telling me I'm stuck in an ideology if I identify as a libertarian?

Well, it's an ideological position.

The problem I have with the ideology, really, is that it gives people a false sense of

moral superiority.

It's not just in the intent. It's actually in the thing you do and the consequences you bring about as well.

Well, I'm not going to be able to say I'm a Libertarian after this podcast. So you've taken that.

There's a definite external place that people regard

more highly than the people themselves. We use the terms objective all the time and universal,

but like what's that even mean? What what does objective mean it means from the perspective of the

universe that's such a weird thing to aspire to do. Do you think this has anything to do with

the lack of religion right now it would be the view of kind of the good of humanity, you know. Carl Benjamin, welcome to my podcast.

Thanks so much for having me.

Yeah, it's nice to finally meet you.

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