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It's time to power up your skills through life gamification with your host, Eric Sue.

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So today, we're going to talk about how you can actually make money with podcasting.

So we know that podcasting is getting more and more competitive.

We know that Spotify and Apple are going at each other's throats right now.

You have Apple getting subscriptions, Spotify is as well.

They've been spending hundreds of millions of dollars on buying other podcasts, Amazon

just bought Wundery.

So the space is heating up.

And well, that means a lot more podcasts are popping up right now.

And if we make a comparison, there's over a billion blogs in the world.

And comparatively, podcasting, I think we're still under two million or maybe even a

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