Chasing happiness doesn't leave room for the spectrum of human emotions, but building a mindset

that allows you to hold grief in one hand and joy in the other, that allows you to be present

for all of life's emotions, the tragic, the beautiful, the high highs, the low lows.

But when we are constantly seeking only the good feelings, whatever, I quote, good feelings,

it leads us to all kinds of places of grief and sadness.

And on top of that, shame, because we're not feeling happy in those moments.

And that was from today's guest, Cindy Spiegel, an amazing show

for you today. And one, sadly, which begins with heartbreak. Cindy's nephew was murdered at the

young age of 32. That was followed up just a couple months later by the passing of her mother.

Shortly thereafter, her brother had a heart attack and was in the ICU, only to be followed

by her own cancer diagnosis a short time later. And all this in the peak of the pandemic. And yet,

there is so much to learn in part because Cindy's captured all this, her wisdom, the ability

to manage and navigate this in a new book called microjoys, finding hope especially when life is not okay.

And as I sit here and think about my own experience, the pandemic, the hardships, you know,

personal ones that I've been along for the ride for my friends and family, it's just,

it's a truth that sometimes life is not okay.

And I believe culturally, we have a hard time managing that in the Western world, whether it's

our inability or the fact that we have two lives, the one that present to the world, the one that we

keep to ourselves, or if it's internet culture, or I think just generally, so many of us

struggle with the ability to process very, very difficult things. And let's be real, being a human

is difficult. And how do we coexist with any sort of resemblance of a normal life?

And these ideas are ideas that Cindy tackles in this particular show and in her new book,

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