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How the Southern District of NY Flips Made Men

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2018

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Virginia Heffernan talks to a former Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York (SDNY), Mimi Rocah, about her start at the department in the early 2000s, working alongside Jim Comey, and what her prosecutions of organized crime units for the SDNY can tell us about the Michael Cohen case. Be sure to buy tickets to our live show on May 30th in Brooklyn, NY! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:26.0

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0:29.0

I never thought that I would ever compare the leadership style of a president of the United States to that of a mafia boss.

0:38.0

And in fact, when the idea first came into my head when I was dealing with President Trump,

0:42.0

I pushed it away because it seemed too dramatic.

0:46.0

But the more I thought about it, the comparison was on the mark.

0:52.0

Typically, when I used to investigate people, they weren't outside the courtroom smoking cigars,

0:56.0

laughing it up with their friends.

0:58.0

As the president says over and over, there's nothing to flip about.

1:01.0

That's very much like a mom family.

1:03.0

Cohen has represented to me and almost everyone who has ever talked to him that he is fiercely loyal

1:08.0

and that fierceness is now going to be tested.

1:15.0

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernin.

1:18.0

So since I joined this show, I've been reluctant to develop even an operating theory of the rise of Donald Trump.

1:24.0

And we've heard a lot of them.

1:26.0

Trump, as narcissists, Trump as autocrat, Trump as showman or master persuader.

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