How the Smartest Founders Are Quietly Winning with AI

My First Million

Hubspot

Entrepreneurship, Investing, Business

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🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Episode 713: Sam Parr ( https://x.com/theSamParr ) and Shaan Puri ( https://x.com/ShaanVP ) talk to Jason Lemkin ( https://x.com/jasonlk ) about cloning yourself with AI and how ChatGPT will be the end of incumbent apps. — Show Notes: (0:00) AI body doubles Users tell AI things they won't tell humans (15:15) The incumbents are dying (27:25) Inside the office of OpenAI (34:12) How to be an AI billionaire (44:40) The story of Saastr (55:49) Being a relentless recruiter (58:52) Seeing through the fog of war (1:07:53) The future of work for gen alpha — Links: • Want Sam's playbook to turn ChatGPT into your executive coach? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/ejv • Saastr - https://www.saastr.com/ • Delphi - https://www.delphi.ai/ • Windsurf - https://windsurf.com • Coursiv - https://coursiv.io/ • Lovable - https://lovable.dev/ • Higsfield - http://higsfield.ai/ — Check Out Shaan's Stuff: • Shaan's weekly email - https://www.shaanpuri.com • Visit https://www.somewhere.com/mfm to hire worldwide talent like Shaan and get $500 off for being an MFM listener. Hire developers, assistants, marketing pros, sales teams and more for 80% less than US equivalents. • Mercury - Need a bank for your company? Go check out Mercury (mercury.com). Shaan uses it for all of his companies! Mercury is a financial technology company, not an FDIC-insured bank. Banking services provided by Choice Financial Group, Column, N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust, Members FDIC

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0:00.0	Now zero to one is very likely in AI.
0:02.5	You build an incredible tool that no one else can do.
0:05.0	You can do a million in a week or two.
0:07.3	I feel like I can rule the world.
0:09.2	I know I could be what I want to.
0:12.2	I put my all in it like my days off.
0:14.5	On a road, let's travel, never looking back.
0:16.7	Okay, so for this episode, what I'm thinking this is about is this is sort of, and guys, this is going to be generous to us, but what is the smart money doing with AI?
0:27.1	And, you know, in betting and sports betting in Vegas, you always kind of want to watch, what are the Sharps doing?
0:31.6	They tend to be just, you know, maybe 10 or 15% earlier to understanding things or to recognizing things.
0:38.0	And so similarly, Jason, I wanted you on because you've been doing really interesting stuff
0:41.9	with AI, both from investing, you're talking to startups that are using him, you're reading
0:45.8	all the reports, but also you yourself built this AI tool.
0:49.6	And so I want to kind of get your reaction to a few of the different things.
0:53.1	Can you first explain this AI experiment you did where you basically made a body double of
0:57.8	yourself out of AI?
0:59.1	And like what was the experiment and what did you learn?
1:01.5	Well, yeah.
1:02.0	So Saster has a lot of content.
1:04.0	As you guys know, we have 12 years of content.
1:05.8	Some of it's out of date, right, for sure.
1:08.2	Saster being, you're a previous founder who's exited multiple software companies now.
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