How the Rich Borrow Against Bitcoin Without Ever Selling | Shehzan Maredia
The Pomp Podcast
Anthony Pompliano
4.8 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 3 November 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
Shehzan Maredia is the Founder of Lava, a company building financial tools for Bitcoin holders who want to enjoy life without selling their BTC. In this conversation, we discuss how wealthy Bitcoiners are using innovative lending and credit solutions to buy homes, cars, and experiences — all while keeping their Bitcoin. Shahzad shares real stories, insights, and the broader vision behind enabling financial freedom without liquidation.
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Timestamps:
- 0:00 - Intro
- 2:36 - Who are high-net-worth bitcoiners?
- 8:24 – “Buy, borrow, die” wealth strategy
- 12:35 – How Lava’s bitcoin loan products work
- 18:22 – Lava’s new bitcoin line of credit
- 19:22 - Real examples of users borrowing for homes and cars
- 21:36 – How Lava makes money
- 24:30 – Why Lava focuses only on Bitcoin
- 26:15 – New bitcoin-backed credit card launch
- 30:05 - The simplicity of bitcoin
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| 1:23.9 | I think the real value of Bitcoin is, it's so simple. |
| 2:01.1 | You just, you stack Bitcoin, you save it, you never sell it, and you just buy a borrow against it to fund just the purchases that make your quality of life better. And it really makes finance so simple. What's going on, guys? Today we got a great episode with Shazan Moradia. He's the founder of Lava. And in this conversation, we're going to talk about what every single person wants to talk about, which is rich Bitcoiners trying to figure out how to live their life, enjoy happiness, and pursue all the things they want in their life without selling their Bitcoin. Everyone who stacks Bitcoin knows, number one rule of Bitcoin, do not sell your Bitcoin. And Shazan is here to explain a bunch of ways that really rich Bitcoiners are actually accomplishing this. Not selling their Bitcoin, but living the life that they want to live. He's built a ton of products for them to do, but he also has tons of really cool stories about people buying houses and cars and going on vacations, doing all kinds of fun stuff. This is what Bitcoiners ultimately are trying to do. They're trying to get to financial security and financial freedom. |
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