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What's going on, guys? Today we got a great episode with John Pompilano. We cover everything. What's Scott Besson thinks about the U.S. economy? Why Tom Lee is so bullish, how Jordi Visser thinks the Bitcoin market is going through an IPO moment. And then we even talk about job creation, mega AI deals. What's going on with the New York City mayor race, which is happening today? And of course, I give you all my thoughts on Bitcoin stocks and much more. Here's my latest conversation with John Pompeiano. All right, John, what's the first topic? Are we in a recession? Bessett, been all over the news. He's talking about certain sectors of the economy are in a recession. Do you believe we're in a recession? What's going on? Anyone who believes we're in a recession is an idiot point blank period if you look at all of the economy are in a recession. Do you believe we're in a recession? What's going on? Anyone who believes we're in a recession is an idiot. Point blank period. If you look at all of the data,

how are you in a recession if the companies are growing 20, 30 percent year over year and they're

multi-billion, hundreds of billions, trillion-dollar companies? How is it possible that you're in a

recession? People say, oh, well, sometimes they grow so fast right before the big crash. Like, first of all, that was a good lyrical rhyme. Second of all is if you actually think about what's happening in the economy right now, we are going through a boom. What's a recession? Two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth. Anybody out there, I'll take all bets.

You think GDP is gonna be negative in Q3 or Q4?

Let's go.

There is zero chance that we are going to see a negative,

two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth in 2025.

Which if you go back, I've been saying the same thing since April,

since February, whenever everyone's freaking out about all the tariffs and stuff. Y'all are ridiculous. We are only going to continue to grow because we're on the precipice of an economic boom that is driven by technology innovation, artificial intelligence, Bitcoin and robotics are going to save the American economy, and all the haters are going to cry about it, but that don't change the future. It's what's going to happen. Do you think some sectors, so it's possible that some sectors are in a recession, but ultimately the United States is not entering. There's a lot of sectors that are in a recession, but they ain't the ones that people want to talk about. How about the entire woke industrial complex? They are in a multi-year decline. They just got smacked. How about all of the

DEI nonsense? They got smacked. They're in a multi-year decline. And so if you look at, yeah, sure,

there are certain sectors 100%. By the way, it's not just that type of stuff, right? There are

definitely sectors that are going to, at times, be in a decline,

and other sectors are going to be in some sort of boom.

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