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Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

How the radical right weaponized ideology (with Nancy MacLean)

Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Civic Ventures

News, Business, Government, Politics

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

If it seems to you like the ultimate goal of the most extreme conservatives is to undermine democracy and cripple democratic institutions—well, according to historian Nancy MacLean, you’re right. This week, MacLean unpacks the meteoric rise in popularity of the radical right’s ideas, and offers a way forward for progressives, based on lessons from successful social movements throughout American history. This episode was originally released in July 2020. Nancy MacLean is an award-winning scholar of the twentieth-century U.S. and the William H. Chafe Distinguished Professor of History and Public Policy at Duke University. Her book, Democracy in Chains: The Deep History of the Radical Right’s Stealth Plan for America, was a New York Times bestseller and finalist for the National Book Award, and The Nation magazine named it the “Most Valuable Book” of the year. Twitter: @NancyMacLean5 Democracy in Chains: https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781101980965 Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com/ Twitter: @PitchforkEcon Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

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0:00.0

Happy New Year, pitchfork listeners. Here's a great conversation that we originally aired in July

0:05.9

2020 with Duke University Professor Nancy McLean, author of one of my favorite and most distressing

0:12.8

books, Democracy and Chains, The Deep History of the Radical Rights Stealth Plan for America.

0:20.0

If it seems to you like the ultimate goal of the most

0:22.7

extreme conservatives is to undermine democracy and crippled democratic institutions, well,

0:28.5

according to her, you're right. McLean unpacks the meteoric rise in popularity of the radical

0:34.7

rights ideas and offers a way forward for progressives based on lessons

0:39.8

from successful social movements throughout American history.

0:44.5

How did we end up with a political system and a set of economic policies in a democracy

0:50.7

that benefit the few and crush the many?

0:53.7

Buchanan's ideas have been weaponized by the Coke donor network to undermine the model of

1:00.6

20th century government in the U.S.

1:02.5

But the great advantage we have is it for every Charles Koch, there's literally a million people

1:07.9

who are not.

1:08.7

There's 300 and some million who are not.

1:11.3

Okay, right.

1:16.7

From the home offices of civic ventures in downtown Seattle,

1:20.2

this is Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer,

1:23.4

the best place to get the truth about who gets what and why.

1:35.6

I'm Nick Henauer, founder of Civic Ventures.

1:40.2

I'm David Goldstein, Senior Fellow at Civic Ventures.

1:49.4

So, Goldie, we're going to talk today to Nancy McLean who wrote one of your favorite books.

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