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Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

How opportunity zones create windfalls for the uber-rich (with David Wessel)

Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Civic Ventures

Business, Government, News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 December 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

The 2017 Tax Cuts & Jobs Act included a little-known provision establishing something called opportunity zones. The plan, which was lauded as a way to direct investments into under-developed communities in the U.S., created 8,764 tax havens that were almost immediately exploited by the wealthy to gobble up capital gains tax breaks. Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Wessel explains how opportunity zones came to be, who is profiting off of them, and why it’s so difficult to tweak the tax code without creating windfalls for the rich. David Wessel is a senior fellow in Economic Studies at Brookings and director of the Hutchins Center on Fiscal and Monetary Policy. He is the author of two New York Times bestsellers: “In Fed We Trust: Ben Bernanke’s War on the Great Panic” (2009) and “Red Ink: Inside the High Stakes Politics of the Federal Budget” (2012). His most recent book is “Only the Rich Can Play: How Washington Works in the New Gilded Age” (2021). He has shared two Pulitzer Prizes, one in 1984 for a Boston Globe series on the persistence of racism in Boston and the other in 2003 for Wall Street Journal stories on corporate scandals. Twitter: @davidmwessel The Rich Have Found Another Way to Pay Less Tax: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/10/opinion/opportunity-zones-tax-loopholes.html?referringSource=articleShare Only the Rich Can Play: https://bookshop.org/books/only-the-rich-can-play-how-washington-works-in-the-new-gilded-age/9781541757196 Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com/ Twitter: @PitchforkEcon Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

Transcript

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0:00.0

Opportunity zones are this real estate play that all my rich friends are using right now.

0:07.0

Like it's just in the air.

0:08.7

I'm all for rich people having good ideas about how to fix our economy.

0:12.3

I'm not for letting them write the rules.

0:14.9

Opportunity zones are yet another example of the way in which the neoliberal ideology has

0:19.6

shaped policy in ways that was sold as a benefit to everybody but really only benefits

0:26.6

the top 1%.

0:33.0

From the home offices of civic ventures in downtown Seattle, this is pitchfork economics,

0:38.0

with Nick Hanauer, the best place to get the truth about who gets what and why.

0:48.8

I'm Nick Hanauer, founder of Civic Ventures.

0:52.0

I'm David Goldstein, senior fellow at Civic Ventures.

0:59.8

So Nick, it's the holiday season and I'm kind of stuck.

1:03.6

What do we get you?

1:04.6

The man who has everything?

1:06.3

How about a giant tax cut?

1:08.5

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1:14.5

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1:28.0

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