I'm Brian Hyatt. This is Rolling Stone Music Now. This year was the 20th anniversary of the beloved Fox teen drama, The O C.

And there's a great new book out called Welcome to the O.C. The oral history by my colleague Alan Sepplenlaw.

And the O.C. of course had a major musical element as well. The show started in 2003

and the whole mini rock boom of that era, whether it was death kept for cutie, the killers,

Franz Ferdinand, or the Shins, or whoever, felt very connected to that show.

Thanks to its consistently amazing soundtrack and the fact that his lead character Seth Cohen played by Adam Brody was the archetyable indie rock nerd of the era

So especially because it's the holiday season or what the OC called Chrismaka today. I'm gonna to be talking with the O.C. creator Josh Swartz, who also went on to co-create

Gossip Girl among many other shows, as well as Alexander Putsavas, now legendary music supervisor who worked for the O.C OC and many other shows in movies.

And as we'll discuss, pretty much single-handedly turned Music Supervisor into a high profile and widely sought after job.

These days she's in charge of music for all of

Netflix's original series. But here's my conversation with Josh Schwartz and

Alexandra Patsamas. One of the key decisions early on was making Seth Cullen a indie rock fan instead of a hip-hop fan or these other ideas that were originally being thrown around how did that come about

You say the key decision was hiring Alex which I was going to agree to.

But that too.

Yeah, I think actually we could roll it back even a little bit further in that Orange County

obviously had a pretty vibrant music scene at that time and it just wasn't necessarily what I

was personally listening to although I obviously a lot of great bands came out of

that scene and so the idea was to use music in the show that was less about the region and more about the interior emotional lives of the characters.

In the pilot script there was an Interpol song that didn't ultimately make it in the beginning.

There was the Joseph Arthur Honey and the Moon song that was written into the end of the script.

Remember when we first met and everything was still a bit in loves. So that was always going to be the musical palette of the show.

So that was always the gonna be the musical palette of the show.

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