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How the MLS is Destroying Your Real Estate Investment Strategy

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Kurt Carlton discusses the inefficiencies of the MLS for a good real estate investment strategy. It's currently hard to find good deals, an MLS doesn't show the scale of vacant housing in the U.S., and some sellers often prefer off-market options that avoid inspections and repairs. We also talk broader market dynamics as today’s challenges stem not from distressed sellers, as in 2008, but from an aging housing stock and a severe shortage of new construction. Local real estate investors are best positioned to help restore inventory by rehabilitating vacant homes, offering a scalable solution to a long-term housing crisis. 

We discuss...

  • Kurt Carlson has nearly 20 years of experience in real estate, specializing in distressed and value-add residential properties.
  • Unlike the MLS, Kurt's real estate platform targets off-market and undervalued properties not suited for traditional homebuyers.
  • The MLS is inefficient for distressed properties, as typical buyers are discouraged by repairs and inspections.
  • Investors view property issues as opportunities to create value through design, rehab, and operational efficiency.
  • Many realtors prefer listing distressed homes on Kurt’s marketplace rather than handling inspections and contractor coordination.
  • Local investors can rehab properties more efficiently and cost-effectively than distant or uninformed sellers.
  • There are roughly 15 million vacant homes in the U.S., presenting massive hidden inventory potential.
  • Despite high housing demand, new construction is at historic lows—fewer homes are being built now than in 1992.
  • Builders face high regulatory costs, land expenses, tariffs, labor shortages, and unpredictable demand cycles.
  • Government programs often inflate demand rather than addressing supply constraints in affordable housing.
  • Local real estate investors are critical to solving the housing crisis by repurposing vacant homes into livable inventory.
  • Supply-demand imbalance persists because builders can’t profitably create affordable housing in high-demand areas.
  • There is plenty of capital in the market, but the housing market is not clearing due to mismatches in pricing and affordability.
  • Out of all homes sold in the U.S., one in five is purchased by a real estate investor, the majority of whom buy fewer than 10 homes per year.
  • The perception that Wall Street is dominating the housing market is misleading; most activity is by small business operators.
  • There is strong demand for single-family rentals (SFR), especially for families who don’t want to live in apartments.
  • Revitalizing a few homes in neglected neighborhoods can start a chain reaction that attracts more investment and increases values.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.8

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:10.6

Hello, Smart Money Tree Podcast listeners.

0:12.4

Welcome to this week's show.

0:13.4

My name's Kirk Chisholm and I'll be your host.

0:15.7

So today I'm joined with Kurt Carlson.

0:17.8

How you doing it, Kurt?

0:18.7

So far so good.

0:19.7

We haven't talked about real estate in a while,

0:21.3

but we really wanted to dive right in here because there's a lot going on the real estate market.

0:26.4

Kurt, tell us a little bit about your background before we begin. I've been doing this for nearly 20

0:30.0

years. We started a marketplace for real estate investors to find houses that they can rehab.

0:35.2

Before that, I was in a similar role, organizing sort of SFR assets before

0:40.4

anybody else was. It was a very small industry back then. Obviously, that all changed in 2008,

0:45.7

which was pretty disruptive. Before that, we did some real estate in the Caribbean of all places,

0:50.2

but I'm originally from Minnesota now, full on 100% Texan.

0:55.3

You said you have a marketplace for real estate to rehab. How is that different from like,

1:00.6

you know, the typical MLS directory? What do you guys doing different?

1:04.4

We realized this in 2008. You know, there was more inefficiency in the market, in the housing

1:09.8

market than we'll ever see.

1:10.9

We'll never see those times again.

1:12.4

But we realized very quickly that the MLS was a traditional marketplace for traditional buyers.

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