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The Ezra Klein Show

How the Israel-Gaza Conversations Have Shaped My Thinking

The Ezra Klein Show

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Government, News

4.611K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

It’s become something of a tradition on “The Ezra Klein Show” to end the year with an “Ask Me Anything” episode. So as 2023 comes to a close, I sat down with our new senior editor, Claire Gordon, to answer listeners’ questions about everything from the Israel-Hamas war to my thoughts on parenting. We discuss whether the war in Gaza has affected my relationships with family members and friends; what I think about the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement; whether the Democrats should have voted to keep Kevin McCarthy as House speaker; how worried I am about a Trump victory in 2024; whether A.I. can really replace human friendships; how struggling in school as a kid shaped my politics as an adult; and much more. Mentioned: We’re looking for a researcher to join our team. Learn more and apply here. Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Emefa Agawu and Rollin Hu. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. And special thanks to Sonia Herrero.

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0:00.0

From New York Times opinion, this is the Ezra Klein Show. So before we begin, one bit of housekeeping, which is we are looking for a

0:27.6

researcher on the show, somebody who's going to be central in prepping and

0:32.1

creating the structure of these episodes alongside obviously me and the team.

0:38.3

We are looking for somebody with a background here in politics and policy. It's an election year and then it's going to be

0:44.0

either the first year of a reelected administration or a new administration so that's

0:48.9

going to be an important set of topics for us. If you're interested we have the application linked in shownotes or you can

0:55.4

find it at nytco.com under the careers tab. But for today you all sent in a lot of

1:01.0

questions I have seen enough for them,

1:03.5

they are very difficult, and I am nervous about answering them.

1:07.5

But here to join me with it, which is also a great way

1:09.6

of introducing her to all of you.

1:11.8

We have a new senior editor on the show, the great Claire Gordon, who I used to work with back when we worked on Netflix's Explained a show together, which was great then, and I am so glad that she is on the show now and she's agreed to come pepper me with all of your questions and not let me refuse to answer them and so Claire welcome

1:32.1

Thank you, Ezra.

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It's great to be here.

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Well, let's get started.

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The questions that came in

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overwhelmingly were in four buckets

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and the first of those buckets is Israel, Palestine.

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Oh good, the easy bucket first.

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Mm-hmm, just to warm you up.

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So...

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And then the U.S. politics, AI, and then personal questions, and then we'll end with a fun rapid

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