How the Internet Went From Counterculture to Technofeudalism | Douglas Rushkoff

Hidden Forces

Demetri Kofinas

Government, Business

4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 439 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Douglas Rushkoff, a pioneering media theorist, best-selling author, and leading voice on how digital technologies shape societies, economies, and cultures.

Rushkoff and Kofinas spend the first hour of their conversation tracing the arc of Douglas’ career, from his upbringing in a communal 1960s neighborhood in Queens and early work in theater to his role as a cultural and media critic chronicling the rise of the early internet. They explore how the internet’s rave-like collaborative ethos and anarchic counterculture gradually gave way in the 1990s and early 2000s to a highly centralized, commercialized, and impersonal platform for economic and political consolidation and control.

The second hour turns to a conversation about consequences and remedies for our increasingly disembodied and highly intermediated world—with its blurring of public and private spaces, its hyperreality and epistemic dislocation, and its noticeable drift toward techno-feudalism and digital pacification.

We examine ways to rebuild sovereignty over our communities and how to reclaim our attention, reaffirm our relationships, and reassert our power as citizens over our governments and the large-scale commercial and technological forces shaping our lives.

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Episode Recorded on 09/08/2025

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0:00.0	What's up, everybody? My name is Demetri Gaffinus, and you're listening to Hidden Forces,
0:06.4	a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs, and everyday citizens to challenge consensus narratives,
0:14.1	and learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world.
0:19.3	My guest in this episode of Hidden Forces is Douglas Rushkoff,
0:22.8	a pioneering media theorist, the bestselling author of books like Present Shock and Team Human,
0:29.1	and a leading voice on how digital technologies shape societies, economies, and culture.
0:35.7	Douglas and I spend the first hour of our conversation tracing the arc of
0:39.4	his career from his time growing up in a communal 1960s neighborhood in Queens and a career in theater,
0:46.0	to his time as a cultural and media critic writing about the rise of the early internet,
0:51.3	with its rave-like collaborative ethos and anarchic counterculture,
0:55.3	along with the moment it pivoted from being a human-centered medium to a highly commercialized,
1:01.1	impersonal platform of economic and political consolidation and control.
1:06.7	The second hour turns to a conversation about consequences and remedies for our increasingly
1:11.8	disembodied and highly intermediate world, with its blurring of public and private spaces,
1:17.5	its hyper-reality, and epistemic dislocation, and its noticeable drift toward techno-futalism
1:23.5	and digital pacification. We examine ways to rebuild sovereignty over our communities,
1:29.1	along with steps that we can take to reclaim our attention,
1:32.3	reaffirm our relationships,
1:34.1	and reassert our power as citizens over our governments
1:37.6	and the large-scale commercial and technological forces shaping our lives.
1:43.1	If you want access to all of this conversation, go to
1:46.3	hiddenforces.io slash subscribe and join our premium feed, which you can listen to on your mobile
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