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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

How the 'burbs turned blue

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

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🗓️ 9 July 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Michigan’s Oakland County, once a Republican stronghold, is turning blue. Playbook's Eugene Daniels and Zack Stanton (also a Michigan native — he's from the "knuckle"), talk about whether shedding these suburbs is a warning light for Trumpism. Plus: Former Michigan GOP leader Jeff Timmer on what he thinks losing this stronghold says about the strength of a Republican electoral map. Eugene Daniels is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Zack Stanton is Playbook deputy editor for POLITICO.Jeff Timmer is a longtime GOP strategist who was executive director of the Michigan state party from 2005-2009.Adrienne Hurst is a producer for POLITICO audio.Annie Rees is a producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is the senior producer for POLITICO audio.Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oakland County was kind of the quintessential suburban America. It was a very

0:09.6

white middle-class, upper-middle-class, reliably Republican and really played a

0:16.3

huge role in electing Republican statewide in Michigan for decades and now

0:21.2

as a blue County and will I think keep Michigan firmly in the Democrats

0:28.9

column over the next decades. Today, suburbs. That's right the land of

0:36.1

miniband, garages, roller skates and cul-de-sacs. It will be forever before another

0:42.6

Republican-sniffs-advictory in Oakland County. I'm Eugene Daniels. This is Playbook

0:51.8

Deep Dive. Republican collapse in Michigan's Oakland County once a strong

0:59.0

cold was a long time coming. It was like, you know, what's going on here? How can

1:03.6

we stop this from happening? It's losing these suburbs a warning light for

1:09.0

Trumpism. I live in breathe Twitter, so yes, I can, you know, political

1:13.1

Twitter is oxygen. Jeff Timmer is a long-time Republican strategist in Michigan.

1:18.4

For years, he led the States Republican Party. I was executive director of the

1:23.6

Michigan Republican Party and I am a senior advisor to the Lincoln Project.

1:28.8

Yeah, that Lincoln project. Never Trump Republicans who spent tons of money on

1:34.2

anti-Trump ads last election. Jeff is the guy who helped draw the election

1:39.7

maps in Michigan. He helped elect Republicans for decades. Most won't talk to me anymore.

1:45.5

And now that very party lost in a reliably Republican suburban county when

1:51.9

that Jeff used to base some of his strategy on. If I was still a Republican

1:56.1

wanted Republicans to win, I would look at this as a, you know, certainly as a big

2:00.4

math problem. Republicans from Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell right on down

2:04.8

seemed to have had enough of Donald Trump, but then they quickly realized their

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