In a lot of ways, what streaming services are doing are sort of like allowing this already

like very broken industry to continue existing.

Thank you. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us.

I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is Liz Pelly.

Liz is a freelance writer and critic who has spent the past decade running community art spaces.

She's also a contributing editor and columnist at the Baffler.

In our conversation today, we look at Spotify and how the streaming model is affecting

musicians and their ability to create art that enriches our broader culture.

Our conversation is based on a column that she's written for a number of years at the Baffler,

which critically looks into Spotify and how it's affecting, not only the music industry,

but increasingly the podcasting industry as well.

Our conversation today focuses on musicians and the long trend of exploitation that Spotify

continues in the music industry to this day. The platform

uses its power to ensure that it reaps the benefits of musicians' labor. This is a really

important topic and it has some strong relationships to what we've discussed around the

gig economy. There is a little bit of feedback in some of the audio, just so you're aware,

but I think you'll have no problem understanding the really important points that Liz makes in this episode.

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supporter. Enjoy the conversation. Liz, welcome to Tech Won't Save Us. Hey, thank you so much for having

me. It's great to speak with you. You've been writing critically about Spotify for a number of

years now in your column at the baffler, always providing really timely insights into what is

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