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Rune Soup

How Spirit Entities Shape Human Affairs | Vanese McNeill

Rune Soup

Gordon White

Magic, Occult, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Paranormal, Ufo, Spirituality

4.7861 Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Vanese McNeill, co-producer of the Magical Egypt series, returns to the show. In this episode, we explore the hows and possible whys of spirit involvement in history, from the super-elite level down to the everyday. And also across to some of the sillier claims about AI floating in the air like so many plasma entities.

And all of this was inspired by a post Vanese wrote on the Magical Egypt substack about ontozoology back in June.

So that’s where we begin, and this is where we go after:

1. The Ontozoology Framework

  • What invisible beings actually exist in the ecosystem

  • Moving beyond Christian binary (demons vs. angels) to animist complexity

  • The difference between malevolent, benevolent, and simply non-human agendas

2. Catherine Austin Fitts & Demonic Capital

  • The exact quote about interdimensional intelligences controlling capital

  • Why this is being discussed now by credible people

  • The problem with oversimplifying complex entities as "Satan"

3. Conscious vs. Unconscious Elite Collaboration

  • How much is deliberate ritual worship vs. unconscious possession

  • The decline of magical literacy among modern elites

  • Why materialist worldviews make people more vulnerable to influence

4. Historical Magic & Modern Mind Control

  • Ancient Egyptian spirit relationships as information exchange

  • How modern "operations" are rituals without the practitioners knowing it

  • Predictive programming as contemporary magic

5. The AI & Slop Demon Problem

  • Why "The Architect" and similar AIs aren't sentient but are dangerous

  • How AI creates mental conditions ripe for spiritual colonisation

  • The difference between AI hosting demons vs. AI making minds available for possession

6. UFOs, Aliens, and Interdimensional Beings

  • The reframing of UFO phenomena as spiritual rather than extraterrestrial

  • Catherine's invitation to meet "aliens in human bodies"

  • Distinguishing between visiting organisms and native invisible ecology

Transcript

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0:00.0

Another big boom for me was to really get my head around the degree to which possession has been in human history since day one all the way up through possibly today.

0:16.7

And I got the exact quote. It was intergenerational pools of capital are currently being influenced by occulted interdimensional intelligences of a distinctly demonic nature. Vinesse McNeil returns to the show this week.

0:44.2

Venise is the co-producer and host of the legendary documentary series Magical Egypt.

0:49.9

She first joined us to talk about Magical Egypt and the impact and long shadow of John Anthony West.

0:56.1

And it is with that background in alternate history and the strange things that have happened

1:03.2

in and on now timeline that brings her back to the show this week to talk about a related

1:10.4

angle on situating ourselves

1:15.0

in place and time, which is how much the spirit world impacts human on goings and undoings.

1:27.2

Enjoy.

1:28.2

Phineas McNeil, welcome back.

1:30.9

Thank you so much for having me, my darling.

1:33.4

I am honestly so excited to be here and so honored and really, really interested in this topic

1:39.8

we're going to be talking about today.

1:41.2

So thank you.

1:42.5

Yeah, me too.

1:43.6

There's a bit of a circular roundabout way I got to this talking about today. So thank you. Yeah, me too. It's this is there's a bit of a circular

1:46.5

roundabout way I got to this topic, which was I was training some AIs on some of my more popular

1:52.8

like early podcast episodes with people like Peter LeVender and so on. And one of the topics that

1:58.8

showed up was the role of spirits in history.

2:01.6

And I'm like, okay, that sounds like a good idea for a podcast episode.

2:05.6

I just need to find the right maniac to have that discussion with.

2:09.6

And then you wrote on the Maginac of Substack, a post that is absolutely completely on point for it, which was about ontozoology.

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