How Spain's civil war became a modern-day culture war
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The Times
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🗓️ 17 August 2023
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
After inconclusive elections last month, today Spain's parliament reconvenes to try to form a government. But as Spanish politicians look to the future, questions from the recent past continue to haunt them. When it comes to the country's bloody civil war, and the repressive regime that followed it, who gets to decide how the past is remembered?
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- Sir Paul Preston, professor of international history at the London School of Economics.
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| 0:00.0 | In 2004 Andrew Malkinson was jailed for life after a woman was raped in greater Manchester. |
| 0:07.0 | I couldn't find a way to demonstrate I was telling the truth. |
| 0:10.0 | But the police got the wrong man, who then fought for two decades to clear his name. |
| 0:16.0 | Today we told this court I was innocent and finally they listened. |
| 0:21.0 | 17 years, a series from the Times and the Sunday Times. |
| 0:25.0 | Listen wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:30.0 | I'm standing in front of one of the most famous paintings in the world. |
| 0:37.0 | Garnika by Pablo Picasso, which lives at the Reynas of Yamizio in Madrid. |
| 0:47.0 | Martha Santbania's a producer at Times Radio is our guide today. |
| 0:51.0 | She's in front of Garnika by Pablo Picasso, which lives at the Reynas of Yamizio in Madrid. |
| 0:56.0 | A producer at Times Radio is our guide today. |
| 0:59.0 | She's in front of Garnika, one of the most vivid pieces of art, |
| 1:03.0 | about one of the worst atrocities of the Spanish Civil War. |
| 1:06.0 | The assault on Garnika killed 1,600 people in a matter of hours. |
| 1:13.0 | I think the first thing that is incredibly striking when you come into the museum is just how massive the mural is. |
| 1:24.0 | It's so large, it takes the entire wall. |
| 1:27.0 | And it's this black and white and every single shade of grey mural. |
| 1:34.0 | The victim, the insides of a room that is burning. |
| 1:41.0 | And it's filled with people screaming and shouting and dying. |
| 1:54.0 | To me, the part that has always stood out the most is this image to the left of the frame. |
| 2:05.0 | So, screaming mum, she's holding a dead child and she's just crying into the air. |
| 2:12.0 | The small town of Garnika is back in the news this month. |
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