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🗓️ 6 September 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Tom. I am here with the legendary |
| 0:05.5 | thinker and bestselling author, Gabor Matte. Gabor, thank you so much for joining me today. |
| 0:11.5 | It's a great pleasure. Thanks for having me. Man, I'm really excited about this. You've got such a |
| 0:16.5 | cool breadth of work that focuses in on an area that I care deeply about, which is I'll sum |
| 0:22.3 | up in a way that I don't know if you'll agree with, but when I look at your work, it seems |
| 0:27.0 | to all slot into how we develop and how we become who we are. And that is an area of deep |
| 0:34.0 | fascination for me. And especially with your lens of looking at things |
| 0:40.3 | through childhood trauma, having worked so much in addiction, |
| 0:45.2 | I think you have a really unique understanding |
| 0:47.2 | of sort of how we're put together. |
| 0:48.9 | And I would love to start with something |
| 0:51.1 | that you begin a lot of your in-person sessions with, which is the song by Johnny Cash |
| 0:58.4 | in your mind, which I had never heard. So I went and listened to it and I loved it. |
| 1:03.9 | What is it about that song that's going to teach us about who we are? |
| 1:10.6 | Well, as people, we always think we're looking at reality, and our view of it sees reality |
| 1:16.6 | the way it is. |
| 1:18.0 | But it's been a spiritual teaching for eons that really, well, the Buddha said it, the very first |
| 1:26.7 | statement in a collection of the saying, the |
| 1:28.9 | Damapata is that our thoughts are in the lead. |
| 1:32.2 | And so whatever our thoughts tell us, that's the reality that we see. |
| 1:36.0 | So essentially, with our minds, we create the world. |
| 1:39.3 | Now, Johnny Cash and Istong says, it's all in your mind. One foot on Jacob's ladder, which is the stairway to heaven, which by the way, wasn't |
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