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Tides of History

How Should We Understand the Deep Human Past? Interview with Professor John Hawks

Tides of History

Wondery / Patrick Wyman

Documentary, Society & Culture, History

4.86.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2020

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Professor John Hawks of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, one of the world's best communicators on the deep human past and paleoanthropology, joins me to talk about archaic humans, genomics, and whether the concept of different human species even makes sense these days. Check out his blog, which is an amazing resource, and follow him on Twitter.

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0:00.0

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0:04.2

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0:16.2

Hi everybody, from Wondery, welcome to another episode of Tides of History.

0:19.8

I'm Patrick Weimann, thanks for joining me.

0:22.2

So we've got a really great guest for you here today.

0:24.4

I've been reading his work on Paleoanthropology for years,

0:27.1

as blogging as a big part of what got me into this current project on the Deep Human Past

0:31.2

and prehistory more generally.

0:32.9

He's the Vilis Borgazzy Distinguished Achievement Professor of Anthropology

0:36.4

at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, the Associate Chair of Anthropology,

0:40.0

and an Associate Member of both the Department of Zoology

0:42.9

and the JFKRO Institute for the Study of Evolution.

0:46.1

He's appeared on numerous TV programs, including one of my favorites, First People's,

0:50.0

as an expert on Paleoanthropology, Genomics, and other aspects of human evolution and development.

0:54.9

Professor John Hawkes, thank you so much for joining me.

0:57.3

Hey, it's great to be here. Thanks for having me.

0:59.9

So I want to start with the kind of the broadest question first.

1:03.5

One of the things you've written a fair bit about over the years is the species concept.

1:07.8

So particularly as it applies to us and our close relatives over the past few million years.

1:12.5

How do researchers even classify remains into different species?

1:17.2

Well, you know, it's one of the toughest problems that we face.

1:19.6

And it gets tougher over time because as we find more things,

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