And the We're back with another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Jersinski

Culture Editor here at the Federalist as always you can email the show at radio at the Federalist.

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Today I'm excited to be joined by Vody Bakum.

He's the author of It's Not Like Being Black,

How Sexual Activists

hijacked the Civil Rights Movement

and likely a familiar name to many of you for many other reasons.

Thank you so much for joining us, sir.

It is my pleasure. Thank you for having me.

Now for people who maybe aren't familiar with your work could you just catch us up a little bit on what you are up to these days.

I don't know if you can say where you are but it's not Arizona as we establish before. No, it's not Arizona as we established before.

No, it's not Arizona.

My family and I'm me, my wife and my seven youngest children

for the last eight and a half years

I've been living and serving in Luzaka Zambia, the capital city here, came to help start the African Christian University and I'm still serving there.

A lot of people get mixed up about that because I'm back in the US

three or four times a year to do two week speaking tours and so people just assume that I'm around because they see me at

you know different things but no we are here we've been living here for almost nine

years now and you know a lot of people who follow these

issues closely will understand probably why you were inspired to write a book

again called It's Not Like Being Black, how sexual activists hijacked the civil rights movement given that you now live in one of the areas in the world in which this has become a real flashpoint and I don't want that to be a leading question but maybe if you could talk to us just a little bit about how so many African countries are dealing with A the West and you know aid from the West, but also the cultural influence in the West, but also massive conversions to Christianity.

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