How Rudy Giuliani’s Ukraine Operation Backfired

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🗓️ 3 October 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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In 2018, President Trump hired Rudolph W. Giuliani, his longtime friend and the former New York City mayor, to In 2018, President Trump hired Rudolph W. Giuliani, his longtime friend and the former mayor of New York City, to defend him against the special counsel’s Russia investigation. So how is it that Mr. Giuliani helped get the president entangled in another investigation, this time involving Ukraine? Our colleague investigated the remarkable behind-the-scenes campaign, encouraged by Mr. Trump and executed by Mr. Giuliani, to gather and disseminate political dirt from a foreign country. Guest: Kenneth P. Vogel, a Washington correspondent for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background reading: The story of a shadow foreign policy in Ukraine unfolded against the backdrop of three elections — this year’s vote in Ukraine and the 2016 and 2020 presidential races in the United States.Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed he listened in on the phone call at the center of the impeachment inquiry.Follow our live updates from the investigation in Washington.

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0:00.0	From the New York Times, I'm Michael Babaro.
0:02.6	This is The Daily.
0:09.2	Today, Rudy Giuliani was hired to defend President Trump
0:14.2	against the special counsel's Russia investigation.
0:18.2	So how is it that Giuliani helped get Trump
0:21.8	entangled in another investigation involving Ukraine?
0:26.8	My colleague Ken Vogel investigates.
0:33.2	It's Thursday, October 3rd.
0:38.4	Ken, I want to start by reading from some of your reporting,
0:41.0	back in May.
0:42.2	Please, by all means.
0:43.8	You were a story that Rudy Giuliani,
0:45.8	the president's personal lawyer,
0:47.4	was planning a trip to Ukraine in order to look into the Biden's.
0:52.6	Seems prescient.
0:54.8	This is the quote that Giuliani gives you when you ask him about
0:59.8	this work he's doing in Ukraine.
1:01.8	He says, there's nothing illegal about it.
1:04.8	Somebody could say it's improper.
1:06.8	And this isn't foreign policy.
1:08.8	I'm asking them to do an investigation that they're doing already
1:11.8	and that other people are telling them to stop.
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