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The Daily

When #MeToo Went on Trial

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2019

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

The investigation of Harvey Weinstein that helped give rise to the #MeToo movement had seemed, for a moment, to unite the country in redefining the rules around sex and power. But as a backlash emerged, the Supreme Court confirmation of Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh became a kind of national trial of the movement. On the one-year anniversary of Judge Kavanaugh’s confirmation, we look at new reporting on the story of the woman at the center of it — Dr. Christine Blasey Ford — and the journey that led to her searing testimony in Washington. Guests: Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey, investigative reporters for The New York Times and the authors of “She Said: Breaking the Sexual Harassment Story That Helped Ignite a Movement.” For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background coverage: Last month, several Democratic presidential candidates called for the impeachment of Justice Kavanaugh after The Times published new information about allegations of sexual misconduct against him.

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0:00.0

Megan, Jody, take us back to this moment a year ago.

0:03.6

Where is the country?

0:05.7

Let's actually go back a little earlier than that.

0:08.6

Let's go back to the summer of 2018.

0:11.3

Bill Cosby, comedian, actor, the man once dubbed America's Dad.

0:16.4

Tonight, the 80-year-old is convicted on three counts of aggravated indecent assault.

0:23.5

Kevin Spacey is being investigated by Scotland Yard for three new cases of sexual assault.

0:29.2

That new trouble for disgraced celebrity chef Mario Vitaleo.

0:32.3

Obviously, these allegations of sexual harassment, sexual assault,

0:35.4

a lot of things are in motion here.

0:37.1

It's been months and months since the Weinstein story broke, and

0:41.6

me too has become this global phenomenon.

0:46.5

This is somebody, this happened to me too.

0:49.4

Me too has been the phrase has been used consistently about this case.

0:53.2

It happened to them too and in front of me.

0:54.8

But there's also a lot of controversy and a kind of sense of mounting unfairness.

1:00.0

A real backlash is accumulating.

1:02.0

Actress Catherine De Nueh denounced the movement because she believes

1:05.6

people who did not deserve to be condemned are facing the same consequences as sex offenders.

1:11.3

Because if you try and make a pass at someone, try and indicate that you're interested,

1:16.1

put maybe a hand on a knee.

1:18.4

You could be accused of sexual harassment.

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