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Masters of Scale

How redefining boundaries drives performance, w/former Unilever CEO Paul Polman

Masters of Scale

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Business, Jeff Berman, Startups, Reid Hoffman, Management, Diversity & Inclusion, Mindset, Bob Safian, Entrepreneurship

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2021

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

When Paul Polman joined Unilever as CEO in 2009, the consumer goods company – home to 400-plus brands including Dove soap, Ben & Jerry’s, and Vaseline – had been stagnated with years of lackluster performance. His famous turnaround of the company centered around his ability to redraw the boundaries of Unilever’s mission to emphasize sustainability and long-term growth. He’s a perfect example of why every leader should consistently reexamine the boundaries that limit their business – and be prepared to redraw them as you grow. By redrawing boundaries, you can reinvigorate your team with a new sense of power. As Polman says, “You cannot change people's behaviors if you only work on the purpose – and don’t change the boundaries around it that drive people's behavior.”

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Bob Safian. You've been hearing me as the host of rapid response in this feed for a few years now,

0:07.8

with short newsy interviews alongside the deeper dives of Masters of Scale. Well, I'm excited to share that rapid response is expanding into its own feed.

0:17.0

We'll be putting out shows twice a week, focusing on the urgent issues that business leaders are dealing with in real time.

0:24.7

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0:28.0

and subscribe to make sure you get all our episodes.

0:31.2

I'll see you on the other side.

0:34.0

Eric is the first officially impaired person that climbed all seven summits.

0:41.0

He called me, he said, I got merit on the Shera Plateau, and I want to go back and climb Mount Kilimanjaro again.

0:51.0

So I said, great idea, I'm'm game but then we said why don't we take a blind person from all parts of the world?

1:00.0

So we took a blind Japanese person.

1:02.6

We took the first blind person from Africa to climb the mountain.

1:06.4

Americans an Austrian aid to the top.

1:09.6

Helen Keller said the worst thing is not being blind the worst thing is having eyes and not being able to see and

1:20.3

unfortunately we live in a world still where too many people have eyes and don't see.

1:25.0

That's Paul Pullman, former CEO of Unilever.

1:32.0

Paul himself is not blind,

1:34.0

but in 2005 he was the chair of the international arm

1:38.0

of Helen Keller's alma mater,

1:39.0

the Perkin School for the Blind.

1:41.0

And that climb he's telling us about is when he scaled Mount Kilimanjaro with

1:46.0

Eric Weinmayer, the adventurer, athlete, and first blind person to reach the summit of Mount Everest.

1:52.3

They reached the top with six other blind climbers.

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